What have you done with internal lighting? - Page 2

KittyKatSmack · 06-11-2003, 12:18 PM

With my 0.5W LED bulbs in the door lights, methinks direct wiring into that will do me just fine.....

Foooooooooooooolllllllllllllllliiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Sik Moite!

hahahahahahahaha

ABC · 06-11-2003, 12:48 PM

Very cool Pernod - I like them a lot!

Rupewrecht · 06-11-2003, 01:02 PM

ahh they look cool

might try that, but i'll try and diffuse them a bit more somehow as i'd prefer more of a glow...

Pernod · 06-11-2003, 01:11 PM

If your after a glow, you could try 2 lower powered led's at different heights rather than one bright bulb???

Or, just point the bulb towards the wall, rather than bending it so that it shines straight out the gap like mine

If anyone wants me to post pics of where I put them just let me know ;-)

ABC · 06-11-2003, 01:37 PM

don't ask man - just do it!!! we all wanna see :shock: :shock: :shock:

Pernod · 06-11-2003, 05:54 PM

These pics should be reasonably self explainitry....

The LED is just 'jamed' in between the door handle piece and the main door panel. You can see the two clear bits of heat shrink tubing that I have put over the soldered joins poking out in the 4th pic. (The wires do a loop down into the hole bit where they come out of the door handle just because it helped it sit better - no other reason...)

One of the wires then winds down to a switch (pic 3) that I put in the door-compartment bit (last pic), and then down to the existing door light. The other wire just goes straight to the door light.

The fifth pic shows where the LED sits right in the back of the door handle. You can just feel it if you run your fingers right around the back of the door handle join. I have done the screws up tight so it is reasonably tightly sandwiched - hence they havn't moved at all since I put them in.

The process of putting them in was reasonably easy. The biggest thing to check is that you wire the LED the right way round as they only work one way :-)

Dogo · 07-11-2003, 09:21 AM

nice. I like it !

Pernod · 07-11-2003, 04:02 PM

I should point out that the off/on switch is actually a an off/'only on when the existing door lighting is on' switch.
Just thought I'd clarify in case anyone was thinking it had to be manually turned on when you wanted it to go

sirex · 07-11-2003, 09:42 PM

Solid!!

I really like that, can't wait to see it in the flesh.

Did you ever manage to fix the fading lights?

Pernod · 07-11-2003, 10:01 PM

Unfortinuatley not... Apparently I have blown the internal computer that controls them (or at least thats what Dr Rupe diagnoised ;-))

I have wired them straight to the door now so its a simple on off with the door open and shut...

I have been meaning to find a wrecker to see how much they want to rip me of for a new computer. Once they quote me 5 times what its worth, I'll probably try and pull it to bits to see if I can fix it (I'm guessing that there is simply a capacitor that has blown when it shorted out - or at least that would explain the quite 'crack/pop' noise I heard)

JynX · 07-11-2003, 11:35 PM

Which internal computer is he referring too? If its the engine ecu then thats wrong as the lighting circuitry doesnt go anywhere near the ecu. Id be more inclined to agree with the cap theory which is probably in the housing on the roof as opposed to inside an internal computer....

Some wiring diagrams showing this computer would be good. The ones I have refer to page 53 for the cabin lighting which I dont have in digital form.

Cosmo Dude · 08-11-2003, 08:08 AM

There is a body computer that plugs into the fuse-box, controls light dimmer, keyless entryas well as the door ajar, lights on and ignition key buzzers. The j-spec one also has a reverse buzzer.

Rod

JynX · 08-11-2003, 08:40 AM

So its under the dash on the drivers side??

Anyone got a diagram showing the input.outputs?

Pernod · 08-11-2003, 12:22 PM

A diagram would be great if anyone has one, as then I might be able to work out where the cap that has blown is... :-)

Dogo · 09-11-2003, 08:26 PM

ohhhh ... ur so going to love what I have for you ...

just gimme a sec to scan it

Cosmo Dude · 09-11-2003, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogo

ohhhh ... ur so going to love what I have for you ...

just gimme a sec to scan it

Don't know if I should run and hide or stay for a show

ops:

Rod

P.S. Like your Avatar

Pernod · 10-11-2003, 05:33 AM

If the scan is to big to post then just drop it into my email...
shaneh@paradise.net.nz

Thanks for this, I was so guttered when I cooked the lights...

MrShadow · 19-12-2003, 02:25 PM

G'Day,
Kitty, I think the wire youa re talking about EL (Electroluminesence <spelling anybody?>) cable. This **** is the bomb. You can cut it, run normal wire and then start the EL again elswhere. It's great. It doens't provide very much illumination at all, more of a dull glow (kind of like aircraft have down their isles in an emergency, although not many of you would have ever seen that). We actually have a massive Islander Mask with hollow eyes hanging up in our dining room, and I've put some red EL cable behind each eye, just run it around the hole, and there's this ominous glow coming from behind the mask. Looks bloody awsome.

Ahh, could Dogo or Pernod (or anybody else for that matter) email me that diagram?

Ta

huscroft@yahoo.com

Pernod · 19-12-2003, 03:45 PM

The scan I got was of how to remove the air vents to try and light them from behind.

I haven't been able to find one of the internal computer

Dogo · 19-12-2003, 05:10 PM

ooops forgot.

ill see what i can drag up over the weekend ...

06-11-2003, 12:48 PM	#22
ABC Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canberra Posts: 625 View Photos By: ABC	Very cool Pernod - I like them a lot! __________________ ABC - Andy 1996 Manual V6 Noble Green Hatch FS: $11,500 1992 Manual SOHC Red BG Hatch

06-11-2003, 01:02 PM	#23
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	ahh they look cool might try that, but i'll try and diffuse them a bit more somehow as i'd prefer more of a glow... __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

06-11-2003, 01:11 PM	#24
Pernod AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 368	If your after a glow, you could try 2 lower powered led's at different heights rather than one bright bulb??? Or, just point the bulb towards the wall, rather than bending it so that it shines straight out the gap like mine If anyone wants me to post pics of where I put them just let me know ;-) __________________ --------------------------------- -------- --------- --- Image is live from our flat! --- Come visit me at http://s2.co.nz/ ---------------------------------

06-11-2003, 01:37 PM	#25
ABC Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canberra Posts: 625 View Photos By: ABC	don't ask man - just do it!!! we all wanna see :shock: :shock: :shock: __________________ ABC - Andy 1996 Manual V6 Noble Green Hatch FS: $11,500 1992 Manual SOHC Red BG Hatch

06-11-2003, 05:54 PM	#26
Pernod AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 368	These pics should be reasonably self explainitry.... The LED is just 'jamed' in between the door handle piece and the main door panel. You can see the two clear bits of heat shrink tubing that I have put over the soldered joins poking out in the 4th pic. (The wires do a loop down into the hole bit where they come out of the door handle just because it helped it sit better - no other reason...) One of the wires then winds down to a switch (pic 3) that I put in the door-compartment bit (last pic), and then down to the existing door light. The other wire just goes straight to the door light. The fifth pic shows where the LED sits right in the back of the door handle. You can just feel it if you run your fingers right around the back of the door handle join. I have done the screws up tight so it is reasonably tightly sandwiched - hence they havn't moved at all since I put them in. The process of putting them in was reasonably easy. The biggest thing to check is that you wire the LED the right way round as they only work one way :-) __________________ --------------------------------- -------- --------- --- Image is live from our flat! --- Come visit me at http://s2.co.nz/ ---------------------------------

06-11-2003, 12:18 PM	#21
KittyKatSmack Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Australia Car: Mazda Posts: 3,961	With my 0.5W LED bulbs in the door lights, methinks direct wiring into that will do me just fine..... Foooooooooooooolllllllllllllllliiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Sik Moite! hahahahahahahaha

07-11-2003, 09:21 AM	#27
Dogo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Melb, Aus Car: Mazda 323 BA BPT transplant Posts: 3,459 View Photos By: Dogo	nice. I like it ! __________________ [ Turbo BA ] see my readers ride

07-11-2003, 04:02 PM	#28
Pernod AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 368	I should point out that the off/on switch is actually a an off/'only on when the existing door lighting is on' switch. Just thought I'd clarify in case anyone was thinking it had to be manually turned on when you wanted it to go __________________ --------------------------------- -------- --------- --- Image is live from our flat! --- Come visit me at http://s2.co.nz/ ---------------------------------

07-11-2003, 09:42 PM	#29
sirex Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 171	Solid!! I really like that, can't wait to see it in the flesh. Did you ever manage to fix the fading lights? __________________ Life is too important to be taken seriously! 1993 V6 Lantis

07-11-2003, 10:01 PM	#30
Pernod AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 368	Unfortinuatley not... Apparently I have blown the internal computer that controls them (or at least thats what Dr Rupe diagnoised ;-)) I have wired them straight to the door now so its a simple on off with the door open and shut... I have been meaning to find a wrecker to see how much they want to rip me of for a new computer. Once they quote me 5 times what its worth, I'll probably try and pull it to bits to see if I can fix it (I'm guessing that there is simply a capacitor that has blown when it shorted out - or at least that would explain the quite 'crack/pop' noise I heard) __________________ --------------------------------- -------- --------- --- Image is live from our flat! --- Come visit me at http://s2.co.nz/ ---------------------------------

07-11-2003, 11:35 PM	#31
JynX Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,767	Which internal computer is he referring too? If its the engine ecu then thats wrong as the lighting circuitry doesnt go anywhere near the ecu. Id be more inclined to agree with the cap theory which is probably in the housing on the roof as opposed to inside an internal computer.... Some wiring diagrams showing this computer would be good. The ones I have refer to page 53 for the cabin lighting which I dont have in digital form. __________________ JynX 1994 Turbo BA Astina 200whp @ 12psi "If you cant drive fast with 90hp..... 900hp wont help you"

08-11-2003, 08:08 AM	#32
Cosmo Dude コスモ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location: Vic Car: Mazda '95 Astina I4, '86 B2K and '10 3 MZR-CD Posts: 7,888 View Photos By: Cosmo Dude	There is a body computer that plugs into the fuse-box, controls light dimmer, keyless entryas well as the door ajar, lights on and ignition key buzzers. The j-spec one also has a reverse buzzer. Rod __________________ My 'stina Hatch

08-11-2003, 08:40 AM	#33
JynX Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,767	So its under the dash on the drivers side?? Anyone got a diagram showing the input.outputs? __________________ JynX 1994 Turbo BA Astina 200whp @ 12psi "If you cant drive fast with 90hp..... 900hp wont help you"

08-11-2003, 12:22 PM	#34
Pernod AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 368	A diagram would be great if anyone has one, as then I might be able to work out where the cap that has blown is... :-) __________________ --------------------------------- -------- --------- --- Image is live from our flat! --- Come visit me at http://s2.co.nz/ ---------------------------------

09-11-2003, 08:26 PM	#35
Dogo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Melb, Aus Car: Mazda 323 BA BPT transplant Posts: 3,459 View Photos By: Dogo	ohhhh ... ur so going to love what I have for you ... just gimme a sec to scan it __________________ [ Turbo BA ] see my readers ride

10-11-2003, 05:33 AM	#37
Pernod AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 368	If the scan is to big to post then just drop it into my email... shaneh@paradise.net.nz Thanks for this, I was so guttered when I cooked the lights... __________________ --------------------------------- -------- --------- --- Image is live from our flat! --- Come visit me at http://s2.co.nz/ ---------------------------------

19-12-2003, 02:25 PM	#38
MrShadow Senior Time-waster Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Airborne somewhere in Aus... Car: 2005 SP23 Hatch Posts: 1,779 View Photos By: MrShadow	G'Day, Kitty, I think the wire youa re talking about EL (Electroluminesence <spelling anybody?>) cable. This **** is the bomb. You can cut it, run normal wire and then start the EL again elswhere. It's great. It doens't provide very much illumination at all, more of a dull glow (kind of like aircraft have down their isles in an emergency, although not many of you would have ever seen that). We actually have a massive Islander Mask with hollow eyes hanging up in our dining room, and I've put some red EL cable behind each eye, just run it around the hole, and there's this ominous glow coming from behind the mask. Looks bloody awsome. Ahh, could Dogo or Pernod (or anybody else for that matter) email me that diagram? Ta huscroft@yahoo.com __________________ Gimme a caffeine drip and I'll be right.... Confuscias say "man who go to sleep with itchy bottom, wake up with smelly finger"

19-12-2003, 03:45 PM	#39
Pernod AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 368	The scan I got was of how to remove the air vents to try and light them from behind. I haven't been able to find one of the internal computer __________________ --------------------------------- -------- --------- --- Image is live from our flat! --- Come visit me at http://s2.co.nz/ ---------------------------------

19-12-2003, 05:10 PM	#40
Dogo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Melb, Aus Car: Mazda 323 BA BPT transplant Posts: 3,459 View Photos By: Dogo	ooops forgot. ill see what i can drag up over the weekend ... __________________ [ Turbo BA ] see my readers ride

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